I have a niece with autism who spends a ridiculous amount of time watching teenage YouTubers who do silly 'challenges' in shared houses. The suggestion that she should put her iPad down and engage in 'real life' sport just shows that Albanese has no clue about the 'real' lives of 'real' children, including those for whom it would be flat out abusive to demand they play competitive sport.
Implicitly, it's fine for kids to watch TV and ignore the PG guidance. But when i was a kid, the Albos of my parents' generation were in a panic about TV. One-way mass media is fine now, it seems, but social media is not
Makes me think of the obvious hypocrisy in setting yourself up as a champion of child protection while refusing to legislate to stop gambling ads on TV during sports broadcasts. As you say, watching one-way mass media is fine, apparently; even if there are gambling ads. In fact, we need the ads to keep the TV viable. I'm very confused!
This discussion has reminded me of the horrified response of my mother and sister when, as a six or seven year old, I wanted to watch Lost In Space. In the end, both became addicted to the show.
As an aside, there's a recent cartoon of a bunch of people reading newspapers on a bus or train, with a caption about the isolating effect of the iPhones.
In my view it cannot, unless every Australian proves their ID online. So I have to give up anonymity and risk complete hacking of my ID to use FB? This is a backdoor to mandatory digital ID for all of us, which the public has consistently rejected. I am disgusted with the mendacity and the contempt for the public
Yes, and I spoke with Lizzie about this as well. Didn't include it because it is a separate topic, but I am thinking of publishing the rest of our chat.
I think people will jack up when they realise that this is the likely outcome.
I really hope so, interesting that the coalition seems to be avoiding using it as a stick against labor. Decided that they're winning next election anyway, so why not keep the stealth australia card, no doubt.
What happened to the LNPs belief in parents rights & responsibilities? If parents want their children off social media they have the ability to achieve that without any law whatsoever.
Have three daughters now in their mid to late 20s and they never had their own mob phone until they hit uni and they have virtually no social media presence now, other than group chats etc. I’ve never understood the “it’s too hard to stop them” malarkey.
This is all just politics and as usual Anthony is tripping over his elbows.
Might be another example of how the LNP under Dutton is far less tied to those conservative verities. He seems quite happy to wield government power to achieve his ends.
I developed my own B&W film. I have no idea what I would have become with modern technology if I was young again. No one has a collection of my bad photos or the spicy ones.
I find that the old school media purveyors of lies, smears and fears 'finding' problem with a different media environment that has spaces for the same, somewhat hypocritical. They live on misinformation, disinformation, propaganda and bare faced lies. Same old, same new.
Well written Tim. Watching from afar, I keep thinking he's going to give up on un-enforceable populist horse-hockey. I mean, that's what we have an LNP for.
But no, there he goes again.
I have a mental image of a man in a raft going down the gurgler at a rapid pace, desperately grabbing at populist sound-bites as his doom comes closer. Such a waste - of the opportunity to govern with vision, of our time, of his time - such a goddamn waste.
Neat article TD. Am I right in thinking this topic is really just symptomatic of a voter population hypnotised by a MSM in a symbiotic relationship with the duopoly? Social Media this week, MSM/Lib/Lab blah, blah, blah next week & on we go until 2025. Reinstate the duopoly, repeat.
Actually, I think most people can see through it if not because of any deep political analysis but because it doesn't match their own experience. I'm not saying people aren't rightly concerned about the negative possibilities of being online, but I think they know it is more complicated than "ban kids".
I have a niece with autism who spends a ridiculous amount of time watching teenage YouTubers who do silly 'challenges' in shared houses. The suggestion that she should put her iPad down and engage in 'real life' sport just shows that Albanese has no clue about the 'real' lives of 'real' children, including those for whom it would be flat out abusive to demand they play competitive sport.
That's such a great example, thanks.
Implicitly, it's fine for kids to watch TV and ignore the PG guidance. But when i was a kid, the Albos of my parents' generation were in a panic about TV. One-way mass media is fine now, it seems, but social media is not
Makes me think of the obvious hypocrisy in setting yourself up as a champion of child protection while refusing to legislate to stop gambling ads on TV during sports broadcasts. As you say, watching one-way mass media is fine, apparently; even if there are gambling ads. In fact, we need the ads to keep the TV viable. I'm very confused!
I noted the legislation explicitly excluded commercial transactions.
This discussion has reminded me of the horrified response of my mother and sister when, as a six or seven year old, I wanted to watch Lost In Space. In the end, both became addicted to the show.
Warning! Warning!
Btw, have you ever watched the Netflix remake? I quite enjoyed the first season. Sort of.
Danger Wil Robinson!
The pain, the pain.
Never fear, Smith is here.
The Federal Government's delicate back is a disaster area.
"You addlepated amateur, you bubble-headed booby!"
Yeah, I remember the moral panic about TV.
As an aside, there's a recent cartoon of a bunch of people reading newspapers on a bus or train, with a caption about the isolating effect of the iPhones.
Nobody is asking how this will work.
In my view it cannot, unless every Australian proves their ID online. So I have to give up anonymity and risk complete hacking of my ID to use FB? This is a backdoor to mandatory digital ID for all of us, which the public has consistently rejected. I am disgusted with the mendacity and the contempt for the public
Yes, and I spoke with Lizzie about this as well. Didn't include it because it is a separate topic, but I am thinking of publishing the rest of our chat.
I think people will jack up when they realise that this is the likely outcome.
There are a few people who've made this point.
they are still not really reporting it, though, have you noticed?, it’s skipped over
It might blow the whole thing up once people realise.
I really hope so, interesting that the coalition seems to be avoiding using it as a stick against labor. Decided that they're winning next election anyway, so why not keep the stealth australia card, no doubt.
What happened to the LNPs belief in parents rights & responsibilities? If parents want their children off social media they have the ability to achieve that without any law whatsoever.
Have three daughters now in their mid to late 20s and they never had their own mob phone until they hit uni and they have virtually no social media presence now, other than group chats etc. I’ve never understood the “it’s too hard to stop them” malarkey.
This is all just politics and as usual Anthony is tripping over his elbows.
Might be another example of how the LNP under Dutton is far less tied to those conservative verities. He seems quite happy to wield government power to achieve his ends.
I developed my own B&W film. I have no idea what I would have become with modern technology if I was young again. No one has a collection of my bad photos or the spicy ones.
I find that the old school media purveyors of lies, smears and fears 'finding' problem with a different media environment that has spaces for the same, somewhat hypocritical. They live on misinformation, disinformation, propaganda and bare faced lies. Same old, same new.
It's about power and control at the end of the day and they don't like losing their hold.
Well written Tim. Watching from afar, I keep thinking he's going to give up on un-enforceable populist horse-hockey. I mean, that's what we have an LNP for.
But no, there he goes again.
I have a mental image of a man in a raft going down the gurgler at a rapid pace, desperately grabbing at populist sound-bites as his doom comes closer. Such a waste - of the opportunity to govern with vision, of our time, of his time - such a goddamn waste.
It plays weak, doesn't it? And all the stuff about sport and the real world: it's just pathetic.
Neat article TD. Am I right in thinking this topic is really just symptomatic of a voter population hypnotised by a MSM in a symbiotic relationship with the duopoly? Social Media this week, MSM/Lib/Lab blah, blah, blah next week & on we go until 2025. Reinstate the duopoly, repeat.
Actually, I think most people can see through it if not because of any deep political analysis but because it doesn't match their own experience. I'm not saying people aren't rightly concerned about the negative possibilities of being online, but I think they know it is more complicated than "ban kids".
you give me hope - I'll go with your analysis.